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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 334


    PUBYAC Digest 334

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) THESE ARE THE LAST POSTINGS FOR PUBYAC UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE
by "Pyowner" <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
  2) Re: criteria for weeding videos
by Maggi Rohde <maggi@intranet.org>
  3) Re: Seeking presenter for Multicultural Coll Dev
by "Susan Graf" <susangraf27@hotmail.com>
  4) BIB: Book Topics
by "Maureen L. Hartman" <maureen_hartman@yahoo.com>
  5) Thank You!--Re: Librarian salaries survey
by "Deirdre Miller" <dlmm34@hotmail.com>
  6) Re: Playstation 2
by Teresa Lambert <lamberte@oplin.lib.oh.us>
  7) staff performance evaluations
by "Kathy Eaton" <eatonkathy@hotmail.com>
  8) Re: what can storytelling do for you
by Binawill@aol.com
  9) Recommended Children's Music (compiled)
by "elaine" <elainem@worldnet.att.net>
 10) Re: survey: librarian pay rates by specialty: urgent, thanks!
by ajohnson@cooklib.org
 11) Re: survey: librarian pay rates by specialty: urgent, thanks!
by Pat Pierce <ppierce@newington.lib.ct.us>
 12) Re: Tying Shoes, left handed.
by HFL_LISA@stls.org
 13) RE: Playstation 2
by HFL_LISA@stls.org
 14) RE:  Library Channel
by "Sandy Roberson" <sroberso@co.durham.nc.us>
 15) Re: criteria for weeding videos
by "Curry Rose Hoskey" <hoskey@capecod.net>
 16) Stumper -- Girl, Cave, Magic Stone
by ThrasherS@jcl.lib.ks.us
 17) Re: Good Read-alouds Needed
by Ljarrie3@aol.com

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From: "Pyowner" <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
To: "PUBYAC" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: THESE ARE THE LAST POSTINGS FOR PUBYAC UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 13:10:33 -0700

VERY IMPORTANT: list on hiatus starting 1/3/01

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From: Maggi Rohde <maggi@intranet.org>
To: PUBYAC List <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: criteria for weeding videos
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Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:22:28 CST

On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 betsys@cityoflafayette.com wrote:
> I'm wondering what those of you with video collections use as your
> criteria for weeding.  Our children's videos are hugely popular, and
> seem to circulate no matter how old they are and what kind of
> condition they are in.

We use a fabulous machine called the TapeChek 460.  It cleans the tapes,
checks them for errors and assigns them a rating based on the number of
errors: 0 or 1 = A rating (we keep), 2-7 = B rating (we sell and maybe
replace), and 8+ = C rating (we throw away and maybe replace).  Cleaning
them often improves their rating.  The machine was pretty expensive, but
it's useful.

-Maggi Rohde
 Milan Public Library, MI

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From: "Susan Graf" <susangraf27@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Seeking presenter for Multicultural Coll Dev
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Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:24:49 CST

Oops, Nevada.


>From: Sushila Mertens <kidlit_2000@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>Subject: Re: Seeking presenter for Multicultural Coll Dev
>Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 10:45:43 CST
>
>What state are we talking about?
>
>

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From: "Maureen L. Hartman" <maureen_hartman@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: BIB: Book Topics
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Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:26:54 CST

Thanks to everyone on the list that sent me last year's list of
books we need more of or hard-to-find books. Here is the
original list, with some additions from responses I received
this year.

Sorry for taking so long to finally post it. Happy New Year!

Kwanzaa Fiction
football non-fiction (K-2 level)
Valentine's and St Patrick's Day stories for 2-4 year olds
Ohio River, it's geography, fossils, and history
karting
weaning from the breast
roadrunners (non-fiction)
wolverines (the animal, not the football team)
snowmobiling for young kids or teenagers
train picture books
babies giving up their pacifier and bottle
platypus (non-fiction)
guppies (1st grade level)
washing hands
child moving from crib to bed
how recycling is done
how to teach kids to write neatly
how to play specific sports (5th or 6th grade level)

New Suggestions

Biographies of women in history, especially Connecticut
platypus
East Coast Native American tribes, esp Mohegans and Pequots
Ramses and other Pharaohs (6th grade level)
canopic jars
hieroglyphics (not a craft kit)
constellations (where they are AND the folklore)
chapter books about American Tall Tale characters
gods and goddesses from Greek or Roman mythology (series)
Norse mythology
BMX bikes and mountain bikes (besides Capstone hi/lo titles)
How to do yo-yo tricks
cars you make with elastic bands
brown recluse spider
walkingsticks (one is coming out in 2001 according to BIP)
bushbabies
stingrays
kangaroo rats
sportscasting (as a career)
Croatia (one is coming out in 2001, but we need more!)
uranium
Julie Andrews, at least 100 pages
Emily Dickinson, at least 100 pages
biography of a really exciting pirate, at least 100 pages
life and times in 16th century France
Canadian Mounties
Easy fiction or non-fiction about a parent going into the     
hospital because they're sick (there are several about a     
mom, but few about a dad.)

Thanks for all your suggestions. My patron was thrilled, but
what she really wanted to write about was where balloons go when
they're let go--too bad Jamie Lee Curtis beat her to the punch.

Maureen Hartman
Watertown Free Public Library
Watertown, Mass.
watmail23@mln.lib.ma.us
or maureen_hartman@yahoo.com

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From: "Deirdre Miller" <dlmm34@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Thank You!--Re: Librarian salaries survey
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Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:28:52 CST

Dear Pubyac members,

   Thank you so much for your prompt replies to my question on librarian pay
levels.  I received 18 responses, 17 of which indicate that all librarians,
regardless of whether Children's, Young Adult, or Adult Reference, are paid
the same starting rate, based on similar length of experience.  Only one
responded that Youth Services Librarians are paid one grade lower than Adult
Services Librarians in her town's system.  Most of you stated that you
believed all librarians should be paid at the same rate, as professionals
with the MLS degree, although a few children's librarians felt that they
often work harder and do much more programming than reference librarians,
for which they are not paid more.  Most of you stated that librarians are
only paid more in your system if they have supervisory duties.
   I hope to use this survey data (although not "scientific"!) to help
support an appeal of our library system's recent decision.  This new
decision, which is rather surprising, was to raise Children's and Youth
Services (who work in institutional settings) Librarians one pay grade
higher than Young Adult and Adult Reference Librarians.  As a Young
Adult/Reference Librarian, I perform most of the same duties as a J
librarian, including outreach to schools, school booktalk visits, program
planning and delivery, and collection development.  I feel that my decision
to work with teens rather than young children should not place me in a lower
pay bracket.  One of the reasons given for this decision is that Children's
Librarians may supervise pages in their areas, hence have greater
responsibilities.   However, this is only true in larger libraries, with
large children's collections--and I believe, only true of lead positions.
    I appreciate all the feedback I have gotten from this great group.  It
is very helpful to have a wider perspective on this issue.  Also, thank you
to Linette Ivanovich who pointed out the Library Journal article on 1999
salaries.  Their stats indicate that Reference Librarians reported average
pay of $32,213 while Youth Services Librarians came in at $29,603 for the
year.  (There was no breakdown between J and YA.)
    My thanks again, and have a Happy New Year (and millennium!)

Deirdre Miller
Young Adult/Reference Librarian
Lake Forest Park Library, KCLS, WA
dlmm34@hotmail.com
*These are my own opinions and do not necessarily reflect those of my
employer*

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From: Teresa Lambert <lamberte@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Playstation 2
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Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:31:06 CST

I agree completely with you about the playstation, and I get really tired
of people expecting teens to act like something else, they like to have
fun just as much as the rest of us! A large part of our business is
recreation, in many different forms. On another note, I feel that
playstation/nintendo is much safer than some of the online games that the
teens in our library play, they are communicating with people they don't
know, scares me a little.

Terry Lambert,
Youth Services Coordinator
Bluffton Public Library
Bluffton, Ohio 45817

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From: "Kathy Eaton" <eatonkathy@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: staff performance evaluations
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Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:33:21 CST

I need input on conducting performance evaluations for library clerical
staff. Samples of evaluations would be great and any advice on how to
conduct the evaluations and how often would be welcome. you can respond off
the list to eatonkathy@hotmail.com   thanks keaton
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From: Binawill@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: what can storytelling do for you
Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:35:24 CST

Here in Connecticut, we havea wonderful Public Programming catalog that
covers all kinds of performers. It is coordinated by one of our four
regional
Library Service Units. Twice a year, plus at our annual conference, Shelia
Wartel, the director for PP, sponsors a showcase of performers, many of whom
are storytellers. Each does about 15 minutes of program. Many CT Librarians
have booked performers because of those "auditions." I would encourage you
to
have the Storytelling Guild do a similar thing and invite other librarians
from your area to attend. Best of luck!
For more information, you could write to office@sclc.org or 203-288-5757.
The best part of the Public Programming is that Sheila acts as a "booking
agent" handling all problems and billing... We love it!
 Bina Williams
Bridgeport Public Library
binawill@aol.com


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From: "elaine" <elainem@worldnet.att.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Recommended Children's Music (compiled)
Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:37:26 CST


Hi PubYac-
In this message are my replies to this message, which I sent a week or =
so ago:
My library has a very small collection of children's music and it's all =
on
cassette.  It's (finally) time to go high tech and start a children's CD
collection and I need help.  I want to start a collection of the most
popular/best children's music titles that are readily available.  If =
anyone
knows of useful web sites with this information or you have your own
suggestions, I would appreciate it.

Please reply to the following email address (note: this address is =
different
than the one I'm writing from)
elainem@worldnet.att.net


Here are the responses I received for my inquiry.  Thank you to all who =
replied.  I didn't get too many replies, but the ones I got were very =
helpful. If anyone has any more suggestions, please do send them my way. =
I will post the additional replies if I get any. Thanks.

Elaine Moustakas

Elaine,
I read music reviews in FamilyFun magazine. There is also a website
Children's Music Web that gives awards for children's music:
http://www.childrensmusic.org/
There is also a catalog called Music for Little People that has good =
cd's in
it (sorry, I don't know their address). Probably a lot of what you have =
on
cassettes is also available on cd. Some good ones are Raffi, Tom Paxton,
Disney, Sugar Beats, Schoolhouse Rock, and Ella Jenkins.

Hope this helps,
Dianne Menninga
Cascade Library
Grand Rapids, MI

I'm sure you'll have no trouble finding the usual children's stuff.=20
We have the Raffis, Bill Harley, Cathy Fink and Marcy Marxer, Woof=20
Radio, etc etc etc. Tom Chapin very popular, Sally - gee, I just=20
blanked on her last name - and she's been to Pittsburgh several times!=20
Use amazon too.=20
All the Disney soundtracks are very very popular in our CD collection.
The Rabbit Ears stories on CD are also popular.

Dallas DiLeo
Head, Children's Department
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
4400 Forbes Avenue
Pittsburgh  PA  15213
[412]  622-3189
dileod@carnegielibrary.org

Hi, Elaine -

Here's some suggestions, in no particular order,  of CD's that are
really popular with elementary-age kids (1st-4th grade):

Trout Fishing in America, "Big Trouble"=20
Dinorock, "Dreamosaurus"
Tom Paxton, "Goin' to the Zoo," "I've Got a Yo-Yo"
Peter Himmelman, "My Best Friend is a Salamander"
Cheech Marin, "My name is Cheech the school bus driver"
Persuasions, "On the Good Ship Lollipop"
Dan Crow, "Oops!"
Los Lobos, "Papa's Dream"
Buckwheat Zydeco, "Choo Choo Boogaloo"
Tom Chapin, "Zag Zig"
Papillon, "Cajun for Kids"
Charlie Daniels, "By the Light of the Moon"
Sugar Beats, "21 Really Cool Songs," "Everybody is a Star"
   (others by this group are also good)
Barry Louis Polisar, "Little Different"
Gunnar Madsen, "Old Mr. Mackle Hackle"
Josh Greenburg, "Go With the Flow"
"Radio Disney Kidjams" =20
   (any of the Radio Disney discs are popular)
"Rubber Biscuits and Rama Lama Ding Dongs: Doo-Wop for Kids"
"Space Ghost's Surf & Turf"
"Saturday Morning Cartoons Greatest Hits"
"A Child's Celebration of Silliest Songs" =20
   (there's about a dozen of these "child's celebration of song" CDs=20
    and they're all good, but this is the most popular)

Each of these has been checked out constantly since we put them in the
collection (they spend no more than an hour or two on the shelves).=20

--=20
Becky Ann Smith, Children's Librarian
Logan Library, Logan, UT=20
bsmith@loganutah.org
http://www.logan.lib.ut.us
As far as suggestions: I work in two libraries with very different =
populations yet both seem to have "core" music collections that are =
pretty similar and circulate well. Tom Chapin, Joe Scruggs, Raffi, Pete =
Seeger, Rosenshontz, Hap Palmer, Ella Jenkins, Bill Harley to name a =
few. If you haven't seen it- there's a company called New Sound that =
puts out a catalog that deals with strictly children's audio and video. =
As of yet I haven't had a chance to order from them (no funds)...but =
their catalog is a good resource and their prices look very good. Their =
phone number is 800-342-0295. The Music for Little People Catalog =
(www.mflp.com) has stuff that's been recommended (ALA, etc.) and =
"different".  Baker and Taylor puts out a very complete children's =
audio-visual catalog. I've used a company called Vide-O-Go...they're =
local (Central New Jersey) and convenient (for CDs, CD-ROM and videos).  =
You can call 609-716-1989, e-mail: videogo@aol.com, or they're on the =
web: www.videogo.com.  Hope some of this helps. Good Luck.=20

Steve Okrend=20
South Brunswick Public Library=20
732-329-4000 ext.285=20
sokrend@lmxac.org=20

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From: ajohnson@cooklib.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: survey: librarian pay rates by specialty: urgent, thanks!
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Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:39:31 CST


If this were actually true, Children's Librarian salaries ought
to be a lot higher.  We keep hearing about the shortage of Children's
Librarians, how it's hard to find good people these days, etc.,
etc.  But the salary part doesn't follow through.

Andrea Johnson
ajohnson@cooklib.org

--- Original Message ---
Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net> Wrote on
Sat, 30 Dec 2000 10:39:02 CST
 ------------------
This whole thing raises a very interesting question - if some
specialties are much more in demand than others in a particular
area - ie if there was a great dirth of good children's librarians,
but adult reference people were a dime a dozen - as a director
wouldn't you want to be able to offer more to a prospective children's
librarian in order to have a chance at hiring one of the better
people instead of having to settle for someone clearly less capable
because the best people were going other places where they could
make more?
Seems to me as though it makes sense to be able to pay the most
to the people who have the rarest skills.

Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.


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From: Pat Pierce <ppierce@newington.lib.ct.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: survey: librarian pay rates by specialty: urgent, thanks!
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Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:42:41 CST

CAN OF WORMS!

Charles Schacht wrote:

> This whole thing raises a very interesting question - if some specialties
> are
> much more in demand than others in a particular area - ie if there was a
> great
> dirth of good children's librarians, but adult reference people were a
dime
> a
> dozen - as a director wouldn't you want to be able to offer more to a
> prospective children's librarian in order to have a chance at hiring one
of
> the
> better people instead of having to settle for someone clearly less capable
> because the best people were going other places where they could make
more?
> Seems to me as though it makes sense to be able to pay the most to the
> people
> who have the rarest skills.
>
> Chuck Schacht
> Romeo District Library
> Romeo, MI.

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From: HFL_LISA@stls.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Tying Shoes, left handed.
Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:44:56 CST

Facing the child is the same way my father taught my brothers to tie so that
it was backwards as Leslie said.  You may also want to look on line for one
of those left handed catalogs-perhaps they have children's books etc.

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From: HFL_LISA@stls.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Playstation 2
Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:46:59 CST

I mean this in the kindest way...are you crazy?  Have we just become the
local arcade and the fact we re a library meaningless?  How do you decide
who plays and what is your time limit?  Games are rated becasue
of violence-do you monitor the age of the users-let teens play but not the
10 year olds?  A Playstation
is a mindless but fun entertainment that does not belong in a library.  And
I say this as the cool mother who somehow snagged a Playstation 2 for
Christmas and is a hero to my 9 and 11 yr. old boys!
L. Dowling
Horseheads Library

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From: "Sandy Roberson" <sroberso@co.durham.nc.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE:  Library Channel
Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:49:07 CST

I would like to hear from anyone who has experience with using Library =
Channel software to provide children's access to the Internet.  Did it =
work well?  Problems?
Please reply directly to me.  Thanks,
Sandy Roberson   =20
sroberso@co.durham.nc.us
Children's Services Librarian
Durham County Library
Durham, NC    =20

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From: "Curry Rose Hoskey" <hoskey@capecod.net>
To: <betsys@cityoflafayette.com>, <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: criteria for weeding videos
Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:51:20 CST

We are in a small town/resort community, and our kids' videos go out
constantly--especially on rainy days in the summer.  In a way, this makes
weeding easy; if one video has gone out 130 times, and another has only gone
out 10 times, you know which one to get rid of!  We usually weed a feature
film-type of video if  it circulated less than 25 times per year.  We're a
little more "lenient" with the non-fiction videos--the criterion for those
videos is 10 times per year.  Thank you for reminding me--it's time to "thin
the ranks" around here, too.
Hope this info helps!
--Curry Rose Hoskey
Youth Services Librarian
Eastham Public Library
190 Samoset Rd.
Eastham MA  02642
http://www.capecod.net/~elibrary/
Opinions expressed are my own, not the library's.

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From: ThrasherS@jcl.lib.ks.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper -- Girl, Cave, Magic Stone
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Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:53:40 CST

Has anyone ever heard of a book with a plot like this???

  Little girl lives with an old lady in a "desert like" evironment.  They
are the only ones who live there.  Girl has
  some sort of animals, possibly small dragons, that communicate and talk to
her (somehow).   They all go
  into a cave, where a stone that glows transports them somewhere else.
Someone is after them (for some
  reason). She meets up with a guy (love interest?); in the end they find
some sort of shangri la type meadow
  with a lake; possibly a horse accompanies them as well.

  I've tried all sorts of keyword searches and world catalogs, but couldn't
come up with anything that sounded right to my YA patron.

It's not a picture book; it's either a juvenile, young adult, or adult
fantasy or science fiction.

  Any kind of help would be appreciated!  Thanks!  Please reply directly to
me, since PUBYAC will be down for a few days.

ThrasherS@jcl.lib.ks.us
Shawn Thrasher
Lackman Branch
Johnson County Library
Kansas

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From: Ljarrie3@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Good Read-alouds Needed
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Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 15:55:43 CST

You might refer your customer to Jim Trelease's Read Aloud Handbook.  It's a
wonderful resource.
Linda

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